3/22: Terrorism and surveillance experts dissect the Belgium attacks on State of Mind

3/22: Terrorism and surveillance experts dissect the Belgium attacks on State of Mind


DAN: DAN: THE WORLD OF SPORTS IN THE NEWS WORLD HAVE BEEN GOING LIKE THIS LATELY. BILL REYNOLDS IS HERE TO SORT IT OUT FOR ME. THE “DAN YORKE STATE OF MIND” PROGRAM IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY LOOKOUT RHODE ISLAND AND TACO COMFORT SOLUTIONS. DAN: AND FOR YOU, IT IS AN AWESOME THING ANYTIME I GET A CHANCE TO BRING BILL ON, BECAUSE HE WRITES TO YOU EVERY SATURDAY MORNING AND ALL THROUGH THE WEEK. THAT COLUMN ON SATURDAY KEEPS “THE JOURNAL” PRIMARILY IN BUSINESS ON SATURDAYS. HE HAS A LOT OF INSIGHT ON THE BASKETBALL STUFF IN THE WHOLE ATHLETE KNEELING THING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SOMETHING WE COULD USE PERSPECTIVE ON. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING ON A FRIDAY EVENING. I’M NOTHING BUT A DUMB JOCK, ANYWAY, SO I’M HAPPY TO TALK SPORTS ON FRIDAY EVENING. STARTED WITH THE PRESIDENT’S REMARKS. REMEMBER? PRESIDENT TRUMP: WOULDN’T YOU LOVE TO SEE ONE OF THESE NFL OWNERS WHEN SOMEBODY DISRESPECTS OUR FACT IS I GET THAT [BLEEP] OFF THE FIELD RIGHT NOW? HE IS FIRED. HE’S FIRED! I LIKE BOB VERY MUCH. HE IS MY FRIEND. HE GAVE ME A SUPER BOWL RING MONTHS AGO. HE’S A FRIEND OF MINE. I WANT HIM TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, BUT WE HAVE A GREAT COUNTRY, WE HAVE GREAT PEOPLE REPRESENTING OUR COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY OUR SOLDIERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND THEY SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT. DAN: THE FIRST REMARK, AND THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT REFLECTING ON BOB KRAFT EXPRESSING DISCONTENT WITH THE PRESIDENT’S WORDS. WE SAW THE PROTESTS AND THE VARIOUS WAYS ATHLETES WERE EXPRESSING THEMSELVES, ALL LOCKED ARM IN ARM WITH MANAGEMENT, COACHES. SOMEWHAT SUBSIDED OVER THE LAST WEEK AND I’M SURE THIS WEEKEND WILL SUBSIDE. WE TAKE OUR FRIDAY PROGRAMS ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON SO WE ARE NOT IN A SPACE TO TALK ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF LAST NIGHT’S GAME WITH TAMPA BAY. IT IS A BROAD CONVERSATION. GOOD TO SEE YOU. BILL: GOOD TO BE HERE. I DAN: I READ A LOT ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING. PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THIS WHOLE ATHLETIC NFL RESPONSE, BOTH OF THE PRESIDENT AND COMMITS WE REMEMBER, THE ORIGINAL COLIN KAEPERNICK COMPLAINT, THE GUY WHO STARTED ALL THE STUFF WITH THE KNEEL DOWN, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN POLICE AND THE COMMUNITY. BILL: NO , YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RY COMPLICATED, AND IT IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT SPORTS AS IT IS ABOUT SOCIETY. WE ARE LIVING IN A TUMULTUOUS TIME. WE HAVE A VERY DIVISIVE PRESIDENT, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I THINK ATHLETES, THE WHOLE BLACK ATHLETE THING IS COMPLICATED, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE MADE IT. THEY HAVE MADE IT THROUGH SOCIETY. BUT MOST OF THEM COME FROM THE SAME BACKGROUNDS FROM THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE PEOPLE IN BLACK LIVES MATTER ARE COMING FROM. IT IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED AND GOES RIGHT TO THE CRUX OF WHO WE ARE AS SOCIETY AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. IT IS WAY BEYOND SPORTS, AND I THINK SOMETIMES IT GETS CONFUSING WHEN THE ATHLETES ARE TRYING TO MAKE A MOBILIZED STATEMENT THAT GETS — THAT IS GOING TO BE DIVISIVE BY NATURE, BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU DO THAT YOU HAVE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO DON’T LIKE IT, FOR WHATEVER REASON. IT IS COMPLICATED, AS YOU JUST SAID. DAN: SPORTS FANS WITH GOT REACTIONS THAT THEY DON’T WANT POLITICS TO INTERFERE — THEY DON’T WANT POLITICS TO INTERFERE IN THEIR SPORTS. IT IS — I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A SOPHISTICATED ANALYSIS THAT EXPLAINS HOW PEOPLE INSTINCTIVELY SEPARATE THESE ATHLETES ALMOST AS HUMAN BEINGS THEY NEED TO KNOW VERSUS CHIPS ON A TABLE OR PONDS ON THE TABLE . IT IS ALMOST AS IF THE SPORTS FAN HAS DEHUMANIZED THE ATHLETE BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO KNOW THE ATHLETE. BILL: IT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED FOREVER IN HOLLYWOOD. WE WANT THE PICTURE OF THE SCREEN. WE DON’T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE STUFF ON THE FRONT PAGE OF “THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER,” WE DON’T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR TAWDRY LITTLE LIVES. DAN: “THE ENQUIRER” HAS BEEN SELLING FOR A LONG TIME. BILL: WE DO WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE DON’T WANT TO KNOW. IT IS A FINE LINE. RACISM IS SO COMPLICATED IN THIS COUNTRY. MANY OF THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WILL CHEER FOR BLACK PLAYERS IN THE CIVIC CENTER, GILLETTE STADIUM, FENWAY PARK, YET WILL TREAT BLACK LIVES MATTER, PEOPLE THEY DON’T KNOW, KNEELING DOWN IN PROTEST, AS “WHAT’S GOING ON HERE?” THEY DON’T SEE IT QUITE THE SAME WAY, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. DAN: WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? BILL: THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. DAN: IS IT — IT’S AMAZING. IF I SHOW YOU GOING ON EVEN IN MY OWN FANTASY FOOTBALL LEAGUE, AND WHAT I PERCEIVED TO BE COME EVEN AMONGST GUYS I KNOW AND LOVE AND HAVE BEEN HANGING OUT WITH FOR DECADES, THE BIGOTRY THAT IS BUBBLING UP INSIDE THEM ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING, AND THE ANGER THAT IS BEING EXPRESSED FOR THESE ATHLETES, AND YET THEY WILL STILL CLICK THE APP, MAKE THEIR PERSONNEL CHANGES , AND WHO HAS GOT A CHANCE TO BEAT WHO THIS WEEKEND — BILL: THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. NO, THAT’S A GREAT OBSERVATION. ABSOLUTELY. MY WHOLE LIFE TO MY SEE IT ALL THE TIME. AGAIN, IT IS VERY MUCH TO ME — IT IS LIKE HOLLYWOOD. ONCE THEY ARE ON THE BIG SCREEN, THEY ARE ON TV, IT IS ALWAYS LIKE THEY BELONG TO SOME DIFFERENT KIND OF RACE, SOME SEGMENT THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF AMERICAN SOCIETY, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. WE TREAT THEM DIFFERENT. WE TREAT THEM AS IMPORTANT. AND YET A LOT OF THE PEOPLE KNEELING DOWN IN BLACK LIVES MATTER ON THE STREET WITH THE STREET PROTESTS, WE DON’T LIKE AT ALL. WE HAVE A VISCERAL REACTION AGAINST THAT. WHAT IS THEIR PROBLEM? DAN: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE REASONABLE EXERCISE OF ARGUMENT THAT ATHLETES BRING TO THE COMPETITIVE PLAYING FIELD — AND LET’S NOT KID OURSELVES, A LOT OF THIS IS HAPPENING DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, WHICH IS NOW CUSTOMARY START OF EVERY COMPETITION. WHAT IS THE REASONABLE EXPRESSION ON THE FIELD, DURING AN ANTHEM, FOR SOMETHING THEY PERCEIVE TO BE A POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW? BILL: THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. I’M NOT SURE ANYONE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY’S WORLD. NO ONE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT. TO ME, IF YOU LINK ARMS WITH YOUR TEAMMATES, YOU ARE MAKING A STATEMENT, BUT YOU ARE NOT REALLY VIOLATING THE ANTHEM. DAN: THE LINKING OF THE ARM THING IS FASCINATING, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT — I WILL INTRODUCE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, AND THEY ALWAYS — SOMETIMES THE OPPOSING TEAMS LOCK ARMS. I’VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT TO BE RESPECTFUL — LOOKING UP FLAG — HEY, WE ARE TOGETHER COME HERE TO PLAY TOGETHER. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A POLITICAL ASPECT TO IT. THEN IT BECAME POLITICAL. I THOUGHT IT WAS MUCH MORE — WE HAVEN’T DISTINGUISHED BETWEEN THOSE WHO KNEALT AND THOSE WHO MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE NATIONAL ANTHEM WITH POLICE AND COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, AND THEN THE PRESIDENT GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND RESPONDING TO HIM CALLING THEM SOB’S. THAT THING WAS MORE A RESPONSE TO THE PRESIDENT THEN IT WAS THE ORIGINAL POLITICAL ISSUE. BILL: I AGREE WITH THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE ONE WHO POLITICIZED THE WHOLE THING. DAN: AND THE FANS WHO CANNOT EXCUSE THE PLAYERS FOR DOING THAT — BY THE WAY, ATTENDANCE WAS DOWN THE FOLLOWING WEEK. BILL: OF COURSE NOT. DAN: ARE THEY JUST PART OF THE TRUMP BASE, OR — AS AMERICANS DON’T KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT WATCHING THE GAME ANYMORE. BILL: NO NO NO. NUMBER ONE, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE DIVIDED SOCIETY. THAT IS EXTREMELY APPARENT. EVERYONE RIGHT NOW IS SO HYPERSENSITIVE TO EVERYTHING. IT IS AN AMAZING TIME TO LEAVE IN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS SO IN FLUX. EVERY TIME, IT SEEMS TO ME, THAT TRUMP OPENS HIS MOUTH, HE RATCHETED UP A LITTLE BIT. DAN: YOU HAVE CHRONICLED SO MANY INDIVIDUAL LIVES, YOUR ESSAYS IN FOLLOWING PLAYERS OF ALL SHAPES, SIZES, CREEDS, COLORS, GENDERS, STANDS ON ITS OWN. YOU HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW ATHLETES AS PEOPLE. THAT IS PART OF WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO, TO TELL THE PEOPLE STORY. BILL: TOTALLY. AT THIS STAGE IN MY CAREER, I DON’T HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE GAMES THEMSELVES. I MEAN, I LIKE PAGANS, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT DRIVES ME FOR — I LIKE TO PLAY GAMES, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT DRIVES ME. DAN: PEOPLE COME TO YOU AND IT IS VERY INTENSE WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE STORIES. THEY LIKE TO HEAR THE PEOPLE STORIES. YET WHEN THEY BEHAVE LIKE PEOPLE — BILL: GETS MORE COMPLICATED. IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED. I THINK WE’RE FIGHTING WITH ATHLETES AS A SOCIETY, OR CELEBRITIES IN GENERAL, WE WANT THEM TO BE WHAT WE WANT THEM TO BE. IF YOU ARE A FOOTBALL PLAYER, YOU PLAY FOOTBALL. IF YOU’RE AN ACTRESS, YOU LOOK CUTE ON THE SCREEN. WE DON’T WANT TO KNOW WHOLE LOT OF WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THINGS, BECAUSE THEN IT IS MORE COMPLICATED AND THEY MAY NOT THINK THE WAY WE THINK. WAIT A MINUTE, I LIKE THIS PERSON AND REALLY RESPECT TO THEM, AND YET IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED. DAN: DOES WHITE AMERICA — AND THERE IS A WHITE AMERICA — DOES WHITE AMERICA HAVE A DEEP CONSCIOUS, MAYBE NOT OVERTLY, BUT KIND OF A CONSCIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE IDEA THAT MOST MAJOR COLLEGE PROFESSIONAL TEAMS OTHER THAN MOTOR RACING ARE NOW BLACK, FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR? BILL: I THINK SO. UNDEFINED. DAN: HE DOES NOT COME OUT UNTIL SOMETHING PROVIDES — BILL: IT IS ALMOST LIKE WE WILL ACCEPT THAT AS LONG AS THEY ARE PLAYING BY OUR RULES. OUR RULES ARE THAT YOU STAND UP FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM AND IF YOU ARE ON SCHOLARSHIP, YOU DON’T COMPLAIN, BECAUSE YOU’RE GOING TO COLLEGE FOR NOTHING. OUR RULES IS THAT IF YOU ARE MAJOR-LEAGUE ATHLETE YOU’RE GETTING PAID TO PLAY A GAME, WHICH WE ALL WOULD LOVE TO HAVE DONE ONCE UPON A TIME. DAN: THAT FEELING IS WHETHER YOU ARE WHITE OR BLACK. BILL: SURE. AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN THE BOXES WE WANT THEM TO BE INCOME WE ARE FINE WITH IT. IT IS WHEN THEY GET OUT OF THAT LITTLE BOX THAT WE HAVE PUT THEM IN IN OUR MIND THAT IT GETS MORE COMPLICATED. DAN: BELIEVE THAT THERE. WHEN WE COME BACK, THE GUY HE REALLY ADMIRES, JAMMED UP RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN’T BE STANDING WHERE I AM TODAY WITHOUT COACH PITINO, INVESTMENTS YOU MADE MY LIFE, THE VALUES HE TAUGHT ME, HIM BEING MY COLLEGE COACH AND WORKING FOR HIM FOR FIVE YEARS. WE HAVE ALWAYS REMAINED VERY, VERY CLOSE. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL HE IS DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. DAN: BILLY DONOVAN, WHO HAS SO MUCH HISTORY HERE IN PROVIDENCE, AND OF COURSE, RICK PITINO, WHO DOES AS WELL, RIGHT FROM HERE TO THE NBA, A STORIED LIFE HE HAS LED IN SPORTS. BILL HAS WRITTEN HIS BOOK — WELL, 2 BOOKS. ONE DID WELL, WHEN DIDN’T. BILL: WHEN HE WAS HOT, HE DID WELL. DAN: BUT HE LOST HIS JOB AT LOUISVILLE BECAUSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION AT THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTING IS NOT TRANSACTIONAL STUFF GOING ON BETWEEN ATHLETIC SHOE COMPANIES AND THOSE WHO WANT MARKETING JUICE 14 PLAYERS WHO ARRIVED FROM COLLEGE AND THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY AND, HOLY COW. BILL: THE WHOLE THING. LET’S PUT RICK ASIDE FOR A SECOND. THE WHOLE THING IS SO CORRUPT THAT EVERY SINGLE LEVEL TO ME. WHEN YOU ARE AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY IN THIS COUNTRY AND YOU ARE REFERRED TO: CAN WE REALLY — YOU ARE REFERRED TO COLLOQUIALLY AS AN ADIDAS SCHOOL, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? THE COACH WILL TAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE YOUR TEAM WEARS A CERTAIN SHOE. ANY INNOCENCE YOU HAD AT SOME POINT IN TIME, PROBABLY NOT A WHOLE LOT ANYWAY IN BIG-TIME COLLEGE SPORTS, BUT IT IS SO CORRUPTED. OBVIOUSLY WHAT HAPPENED TO RICK SURPRISES ME BECAUSE I’VE KNOWN HIM VERY WELL FOR A LONG TIME, AND I DIDN’T THINK YOU WOULD BE THAT — WHATEVER THE WORD YOU WANT TO USE IS — STUPID, RECKLESS, WHATEVER. IT IS BEYOND MY CONFIRMATION. DAN: HAVE YOU TALKED TO HIM? BILL: I AM TRYING TO. HE IS IN SECLUSION. I DON’T BLAME HIM. IT IS NOT LIKE THIS IS A YOUNG COACH ON THE WAY UP LOOKING TO MAKE A BIG SCORE, WHICH THEY ALL ARE, THAT IS THE BUSINESS. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE BASKETBALL HALL OF FAME AND HE HAS MORE MONEY THAN WHATEVER, AND HE IS INVOLVED IN THIS KIND OF THING? IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I’M NOT SAYING THAT THE CHARGES AREN’T ACCURATE OR WHATEVER. DAN: HOW DEEP DO YOU THINK THIS IS? THIS IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, THAT IF THEY KEEP GOING, THEY WILL FIND PROBLEMS ALL THROUGHOUT BASKETBALL. BILL: I DON’T DOUBT IT FOR A MINUTE. IT HAS ONLY BEEN — I DON’T KNOW CAN YOU LOSE TRACK OF THE DECADES — 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS ? THIS WHOLE PROLIFERATION OF THESE SNEAKER COMPANIES INTO THE GAME WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY THROW AROUND TO SCHOOLS, THE COACHES, TO ANYBODY, I WAS SHOCKED THAT IT WAS CORRUPT. I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED AT THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT IT WAS HISTORY — THE AMAZING AMOUNT OF MONEY FLOATING AROUND FROM ALL IN THE NAME OF, WHAT, AMATEUR SPORT, AND THINGS DON’T GET CORRUPTED? THAT WOULD BE THE REAL STORY, IF THEY DIDN’T GET CORRUPTED. DAN: IS THERE A SOLUTION? BILL: THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. THE SOLUTION, I WOULD THINK — AGAIN, IT IS COMPLICATED. GET THE SNEAKER COMPANIES OUT OF THIS. GET THEM OUT. DAN: PROHIBIT NCAA SCHOOLS FROM MAKING EXCLUSIVE DEALS WITH SNEAKER COMPANIES? BILL: IF YOUR PLAYERS WANT TO GO BY ATHEIST ON THE CORNER, THAT IS FINE, — GO BUY ADIDAS DOWN THE CORNER, THAT IS FINE. BUT THESE DEALS WHERE THE COMEDY’S ARE GIVING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO A SCHOOL, SOMETHING CRAZY — I MEAN, WE CAN’T BE ALL NAÏVE TO THINK THAT KIND OF MONEY ISN’T GOING TO CORRUPT SOMEBODY ALONG THE WAY. IT IS JUST TOO MUCH MONEY. ALL IN THE PRETENSE OF AMATEUR SPORTS. IT IS LUDICROUS. DAN: I WONDER WHAT THE LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL ARGUMENTS WOULD BE AGAINST THE COMMERCE — PROHIBITING COMMERCE FOR SCHOOLS TO THAT BUSINESS. ME, TOO. ME, TOO. IT JUST BECOMES A ONE-OFF, AND THE INVESTIGATION JUST STAYS WHERE IT IS. IF IT BLOWS UP, IT IS DEMANDING A SOLUTION. BILL: I THINK IT’S GOT THE POTENTIAL TO BLOW UP. RICK PITINO IS TO BEGIN AND FOR HIM NOT TO — IT IS NOT GOING TO END WITH HIM. IF HE IS INVOLVED, HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. ABSOLUTELY NOT. EVERY COACH I KNOW HAS A SNEAKER CONTRACT. DAN: ALL OF THEM? DAN: SOME ARE LEGITIMATE. BILL: ABSOLUTELY. DAN: BUT THEY ARE NOT PLAYING PLAYERS AND FAMILIES — PAYING PLAYERS AND FAMILIES TO REPRESENT A BRAND IN THE NBA. IT IS A COMPANY SAYING TO A COACH AND ADMINISTRATION AND ASSISTANT COACHES AND THE LIKE, CONVINCED TO RECRUIT A THAT HE IS ON A TRACK TO BE REPRESENTED BY US AND WE WILL GIVE MOM AND DAD A COUPLE OF BUCKS HERE. THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON. BILL: SURE, OF COURSE. GET THEM YOUNG. DAN: INSANE TIME WHEN WE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS, OR I DO, AND WE COME BACK AND ASK HOW IS PROGRAMS GOING TO DO NEXT YEAR? DAN: SO YEAH, WE COME RIGHT BACK, AND WITH ALL THE SOCIETAL PROBLEMS, FORGET THAT. WE’VE GOT GAMES TO PLAY. YOU OR I LOOK TO BE — WE HAD COMMITMENT OUR GUEST KEVIN MCNAMARA FROM THE SAME GREAT SPORTS SECTION OF “THE JOURNAL” A FEW WEEKS AGO AGREEING WITH ME THAT WE COULD HAVE TOP PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY RUNNING THE ENTIRE SEASON LONG. BILL: ABSOLUTELY. DAN: HERE IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM — DO YOU THINK THAT THIS COULD BE ALL OVER COLLEGE SPORTS, DO YOU HAVE A FEELING THAT PC OR URI HAVE ISSUES À LA THE PITINO THING? I DON’T SEE THE EVIDENCE NOW. THEN AGAIN, I’M NOT THE FBI. BILL: IF THE FBI GETS TOTALLY INVOLVED IN THIS AND THIS WILL BE DRAWN OUT. THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED ONGOING THING, I THINK. DAN: FOR THE MOST PART MY THINK WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY EVIDENCE THAT COOLEY OR HURLEY ARE DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN STAYING INSIDE THE LINES. BUT THE LINES — THE LINES MOVE. THE LINESMAN. BILL: IT’S — YET. DAN: YOU DON’T THINK THOSE ARE DIRTY PROGRAMS. BILL: NO, WE DON’T. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, THE LARGER PROBLEM THAT THE SYSTEM HAS BECOME MORE CORRUPT OVER THE PAST WHATEVER — GENERATION? DAN: THIS PROGRAM A AND B IS GETTING AWAY WITH, OTHERS LOOK AT IT AND SAY, HOW DO WE COMPETE? BILL: ABSOLUTELY. THING OF IT THIS WAY. SCHOOLS USED TO HAVE ACADEMIC ENTRANCE REQUIREMENTS. I WAS TAKEN OVER — THAT WAS TAKEN OVER X AMOUNT OF YEARS AGO. NOW IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT KIND OF STUDENT YOU ARE. IF YOU ARE A QUALIFIER, DETERMINED BY THE NCAA, YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO PLAY. RIGHT AWAY THE SNEAKER COMPANIES AND THE NCAA BECOME IN THE BUSINESS OF BASKETBALL COME OF ACADEMICS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES DECIDING WHO GETS INTO COLLEGE AND WHO DOESN’T. DAN: IF YOU TALK TO THESE COACHES — EVEN DAN HURLEY WERE AT COOLEY — THEY TELL YOU PRIVATELY THAT IS A HARD ONE TO NAVIGATE. BILL: I DON’T DOUBT THAT FOR A MINUTE. DAN: DO YOU CONCUR THAT BOTH THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE VERY ENTERTAINING? BILL: ABSOLUTELY. I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. IT’S THE SAME — WE ARE AS A SOCIETY — MYSELF INCLUDED — ADDICTED TO EVENTS, AND WE WANT GOOD GAMES, AND WE DON’T REALLY FOR THE MOST PART LOOK BEHIND THE FENCE TO OFTEN, DO WE? DAN: NO, BUT WITH THE ELEPHANTS, IT IS THE END OF THE SURFACE. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT RANDOMLY OR PURPOSELY HITS THE HOT BUTTON FOR THE MARKET SYSTEM IN THE MARKET PLACE. BILL: COLLEGE BASKETBALL IS AT A VERY — A TIME IN ITS HISTORY NOW WHERE THEY HAVE TO RESOLVE THIS SNEAKER THING. IT IS TOO MUCH OUT IN THE OPEN NOW. DAN: PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST ATMOSPHERES FIRST WEEKEND OF DECEMBER, DOING BATTLE OF THE RYAN CENTER — BILL: CAN’T WAIT. DAN: YOU SHOULD HAVE FRONT AND CENTER — BILL: THAT IS THE REALITY OF IT. DAN: AND CAN SUPPORT IS IMPORTANT. P — IS IMPORTANT. PC HAS IT. WHEN THE PLACE IS LOUD, HARD TO PLAY. BILL: THERE’S NO BIGGER BASKETBALL FAN IN THE COUNTRY THAN I AM. I LOVE THE SPECTACLE, THE GAMES, THE PLAYERS. I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT DOWN THE ROAD SELF-DESTRUCT BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT COULD BE CONTROLLED, THAT MAKE SENSE. DAN: I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED CHRONICLING OF BASKETBALL AND ALL THINGS SPORTS. BUILT, APPRECIATE IT. FINAL WORD WHEN WE COME BACK. DAN: WE’RE GOING TO SNEAK AWAY A COUPLE DAYS. WE WILL REVISIT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SECURITY AND THE POLITICS OF WASHINGTON WITH GREAT PROFESSORS ON MONDAY ON A PREVIOUSLY AIRED PROGRAM. WE WILL BE BACK WITH YOU WEDNESDAY. YOU HAVE A GREAT COLUMBUS DAY WEEKEND. GET TO THE HILL, ENJOY THE CULTURE AND THE WONDER OF PROVIDENCE. SO MANY THINGS GOING ON THIS WEEK. IT IS A GREAT TIME TO BE UP AND TAKING, OCTOBER, FALCAO COLUMBUS DAY WEEKEND. ENJOY. DON’T FORGET TO TUNE IN TO EFFECT UNTIL SIX — THE 3:00 UNTIL 6:00. THANKS FOR WATCHING. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

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